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Well it would be interesting to know if all that happened was the individual lost their phone, or were they able to pick it at lost and found, were they ticketed and/or banned from park, and were they responsible for any expenses incurred by victim...

And what happened to the owner of said phone?

This is being discussed under the "Other Amusement Parks & Industry News", but I do think it was appropriate to open up a new thread in the KI section as I suspect a fair amount probably don't venture into topics not related to Kings Island, and this is related to Kings Island more than Kings Dominion! As I said over in that thread, these high profile personality posts have certainly now put Cedar Fair in a predicament...If KI asked for them to removed and they are mocked and nothing further happens, this just opens the door wide-open to allowing this activity to happen. If KI goes to Mason police with said post and asks for a misdemeanor charge and Mason police pull the ole "we are too busy to deal with that" or the "if we didn't see it, we can't ticket it", such activity will continue to happen. If KI goes to Instagram or YouTube or Facebook or wherever the video is shown and reports the post as illegal and they do nothing about it, then it will continue to happen. Might as well remove the signs and allow it to happen at that point - if it is a policy that cannot be enforced and has no consequences for getting caught, then what is the point? And to those thinking the signs limit KI's exposure if something happens - nope - having all the signage in the world stating it is illegal means nothing in the legal system if an incident were to occur with a flying phone. Sad thing is I suspect these tennis players were provided free entry to the park and a KI staffer probably walked them up the exit to ride each ride being a VIP and all...Nice way for these millionaires that can afford to pay to say thanks to the park!

These high profile posts have certainly now put Cedar Fair in a predicament...If KI asked for them to removed and they are mocked and nothing further happens, this just opens the door wide-open to allowing this activity to happen. If they go to Mason police with said post and ask for a misdemeanor charge and Mason police pull the ole "we are too busy to deal with that" or the "if we didn't see it, we can't ticket it", such activity will continue to happen. If they go to Instagram or YouTube or Facebook or wherever the video is shown and report the post as illegal and they do nothing about it, then it will continue to happen. Might as well remove the signs and allow it to happen at that point - if it is a policy that cannot be enforced and has no consequences for getting caught, then what is the point? Sad thing is I suspect these tennis players were provided free entry to the park and a staffer walked them up the exit to ride each ride...Nice way for these millionaires that can afford to pay to say thanks to the park!

So very true! I have learned to be happy with any new attraction as it will help spread the crowds around, even if it is something I don't like lol!

It was probably just someone's ride op friend messing with us All joking aside - wow there are a lot of random Son of Beast things popping up - are the enthusiasts being set up for major disappointment or major excitement....

^they will now lol

So twice this week I witnessed guests that seemingly had purchased the drink plan that day and found out when trying to obtain drinks that there is indeed a waiting period. I felt for the poor cashiers that simply had to say go to guest services. I saw both guests go off on the helpless cashier demanding refunds that we know they cannot provide. Compounding the issue with one guest, apparently he intended to purchase the all day dining plan and was sold the season long meal plan and was absolutely livid when he tried to redeem a meal 90 minutes later and was told it was a 4 hour window for the meal plan he had and only gets two meals. Again, he demanded a refund that the cashier could not provide. I would assume in that situation guest services took care of the meal plan situation, but I doubt refunds were given for the drink plan. Some of the issue was consumer error, but nonetheless, I first hand witnessed two incidents just this week of the issue BoddaH pointed out and both guests in their rants were completely trashing the park and its policies and overall perception of the park and adamant they would not return. Now we know that the park cannot make everyone happy and some will complain just for the sake of complaining, but it is a good business practice to try to mitigate said issues before they arise. I would suspect this situation happens more often than we see.

Yeah, the explanation is likely and I am not picking on FYE; I am just trying to figure out when a member is going to be pressed for a source and when they aren't lol. For the record, I do think the wood and flower is a great addition, but do ride ops have permission to simply change theming without getting approval? But I think we already know that answer - just listen to all the ride op spiels referencing wrong rides and wrong parks, etc. lol.

I am not questioning about the wood being there, that I have seen as well as many others. I think when people are speculating it is a clue for the next attraction and someone simply discounts it as "my ride op friend told me he put it there" and doesn't name the person, the who at that point does matter. How do we know it wasn't some 19 year old ride op taking credit for it that didn't do it? How do we know he wasn't asked to put it there by management as a clue? What if the poster said a ride op told him it was a clue? What if the poster simply made it up? At what point does the who matter? I have seen people be pressed for a named source for far less statements... I thought I remember seeing a "litmus test" of sorts that someone posted once that said if naming the source could get the person fired, then it is best to not mention what they told you. Could the ride op get fired for being in a restricted area and taking wood pieces and creating this little homage to SOB and changing the theming aspect of the ride without permission? After all, this goes against darn near EVERYONE that wants to discount these clues by stating KI would never resurrect/celebrate a dark part of their history? What if I said my friend in management told me he intentionally placed it there as a clue - would I not be pressed for the name of the source? What if I said that my friend in corporate told me last year that our next coaster is a giga - would I not be pressed for the name of the source? What if I said it was my ride op friend that shoveled giga in the snow in the restricted area as a joke - would I not be pressed for a name? What if I said it was management as a clue? Would it matter then? Or is "my employee friend" the new version of the dipping dots guy? TLDR: I think the who matters when subject matter is part of current attraction speculation...

Little do people know all the Son of Beast references are for Steel Vengeance https://articles-mlive-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/articles.mlive.com/travel/index.ssf/2018/08/tire_accident_causes_cedar_poi.amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

If you get pictures, please remember to do so legally and do not trespass...and this goes to anyone trying to get a scoop lol...

Oh I know why you haven't said a name lol, I am just pointing out the inconsistency on the forum that we have active threads right now where people are asking for the name/source and nobody is questioning you lol. But it has been days since you first posted it was your friend and nobody has said that is against TOS lol

How is nobody not questioning fyecoasters for a name of his source regarding said wood at Banshee? If a big coaster is the next KI coaster it is because it was already planned prior to recent data. I do agree with CoastersRZ about coasters in the near future... Issues with Steel Vengeance aside for a moment, but that coaster did not move the needle like CF had hoped. Reading between the lines in CF statements and conference calls, Mystic Timbers moved the attendance needle more than the record breaking Steel Vengeance did...that will have an impact on future improvements not already on the books...

I believe jtro223 is referring to the extreme brightness of the LED - it is obvious the police lights are there to signify to be cautious and to SLOW DOWN...but to many people the LED lights are piercing to the eyes and causes temporary "blindness" or spots limiting vision at what should be a situation where full eyesight and concentration is needed. Here is one of many articles discussing such phenomena: http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20131231/News/312310319 Many think you are overreacting, but to each their own...If you truly believe it is an issue, take it up with the officials in that jurisdiction...and you will learn more about right of ways and traffic laws and billboards and such as you progress through your degree, especially if you take the transportation route of civil engineering...you may end up answering your own question!

The search feature is your friend...basically the same fate as at Wonderland...between Riverbend at Coney and other nearby city venues, Timberwolf has seen better days...

Yeah I can come up with an acronym why matching those letters... And maintenance is currently on the lift hill...

Well the signs above you when you enter the park said The Beast is closed as of 7:42pm...

For those into running, there is an app called Zombies Run and you are virtual runner number 5 and that phrase is used quite a bit in it... other CF parks have an attraction with zombies in its name....

Keep in mind that Muirfield has two golf courses - Muirfield Village Golf Club where the Memorial Tournament is played and the Country Club at Muirfield Village where the "above average joe's" belong LOL. I suspect that upon closer examination that the charity events are held at the Country Club at Muirfield Village. Muirfield Village Golf Club does not host many events, but if you can find a charity event that you can play it for $150, that is an incredible deal for that course. I can tell you that it costs a lot more than that for a member to bring a guest to play...and the course frowns upon golf carts (the only time I ever saw a foursome with a golf cart, they also had caddies and the carts were not allowed off the cart path), so then you have to throw the caddie fee in which is minimum $100 per bag depending on who you get for a caddie. The Golf Center started out with the course being done right from a building standpoint with the right soil and seed (Nicklaus is known for that), so the City of Mason had a great course to start with when they took it over and it is encouraging to see them maintain it and it does usually look nice. They got some heat for taking it over as it was losing money, but they did it as an investment in the city. But that land is certainly worth more than a golf course at this point and could be sold for development rights. That par 3 over water is a great hole and at a distance that begins to become a challenge to most golfers. My favorite is the 9th hole (or 18th depending on the way you play the course LOL). I love the par 5 with the potential for the Tin Cup moment!

^The golf complex was incredible at it's peak. Most being honest would say at it's prime that it rivaled or beat many of the established country clubs in the area in terms of condition. Was certainly better than any public/muni course at the time. Plus it was Jack's course and he brought a PGA tour event here. It was unlike anything we had at the time here with a resort-type feel, but it would never have competed with a Belterra-type resort of today, but a lot has changed since then too. But yeah, Muirfield is Jack's baby and the lengths/expense he goes through every year to modify the course is incredible. I play it near the end of every golf season and get to see what changes the pro's will be seeing in the Memorial the next year - sometimes drastic, but a lot of times cosmetic. The course is just phenomenal and it's tee boxes are so well groomed they are better than a lot of other course's greens. You could literally practice putting on them LOL. And the greens...just wow!

The Dublin/Columbus area has some very exclusive courses at a much higher initiation fee than courses in Greater Cincinnati, and with much more expensive homes around them. Some of these courses in Dublin/Columbus area have an initiation fee of $100,000+ in addition to annual dues, food minimums, assessments, etc. Some of those courses you don't inquire about joining, if you are someone important with money they invite you to join. Their exclusive courses weather economic turns better than the courses here. Some of our courses that had initiation fees of $25,000+ have dropped to a fraction of that, if they even have one now. Kenwood, Coldstream, and Carmargo have held their own, but they are the exception. No initiation fee at Four Bridges around the corner from KI. Several courses around KI no longer exist. The golf industry is struggling, except for the high end ones with members with lots of disposable income. You really cannot compare the Mason course to Muirfield - one was built as a public course and another as an exclusive membership country club. There was a rumor floating around the golfing community that Nicklaus paid to have his name removed from the name of the Golf Complex because the course wasn't up to the challenge of his later courses and he didn't want people thinking his courses were easy. Having played many Nicklaus courses, I can see why the rumor was either started or true. I'm not in anyway diminishing the course maintenance or upkeep or appearance, but the layout is easy for better golfers - relatively flat and open and the nuance undulations seen in other Nicklaus courses are not there. The course was too easy for the pro's and is why it could never keep a pro tour there. The PGA, LPGA, and Senior tour all had a little run there and was probably one of the easiest layouts on their tour...

They already did...

Because it is the only time they can actually control and enforce park policies and why would you want ads with people doing things that are opposite of what signage on ride says ... and it makes for a cleaner picture...

The actual stock price numbers were not the emphasis of my post. The emphasis was on the third paragraph was which was why on a day that the SIX report came out reporting record revenue and attendance did they have a decline in their stock price, yet FUN was showing an increase in response to the SIX report despite FUN having a down report in response to the same quarter... As you pointed out, debt and a million other relevant factors are also considered when investors make purchases. Emotion is a big one that can result in temporary spikes both low and high as a result of something that makes the news. As it turns out, the gain for FUN was short lived and both FUN and SIX stocks have been on a decline, albeit a small one, since the reports came out. Year to date not much better as they are both on the decline, although FUN has a bigger percentage drop since January 1 than SIX does. And this is despite most analysts predicting in the first quarter 2018 that both chains were setting up for a monster year...so far SIX is trending that way attendance and revenue wise, yet it is not reflected in their stock price - why? The debt and other relevant factors influencing those purchasing said stock...