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^ Wow, that's pretty clever. Good thinking.

Did you ever manage to get rid of them? I've told them that the person no longer uses my number but they kept calling.

This is probably as irritating as what I've been going through. Ever since I got my iPhone I've had a new number. Well I guess someone had the number before me and got into a little trouble. Now I have three debt collecting agencies calling on a daily basis. Ugh.

That area really is awful. For such a nice area of the park, it sure looks bad. That area could really be used for something.

They guy who owned Wendys? I appreciated that one.

Ya you kinda fly thru those corkscrews! I would still do it, aleast once. Is this DF? If so where was it located? What park? Busch Gardens Europe

Yeah, it was supposed to be built by B&M but they were busy with Paramount's bidding.

And what about Drachen Fire? It was only 10 years old when it stopped operating. I was just talking about Kings Island, not Arrow rides in general. But yes, I would say Drachen Fire's demise was probably more closely related to bad design.

Last Friday some people (at least 4-5) walked past everyone in the Firehawk line (over 100 people waiting by the way) they walked practically right up to the loading area. The people in front of me were livid, and kept complaining to the ride operaters and a bunch of us backed-up her complaint. They boarded Firehawk and then were told to get right back off. We all have to wait in line. It might not be fun, but I'll never understand why people think that they can just walk on a ride because they don't feel like waiting. The metal turn styles were put there FOR A REASON! Makes me wonder if these people sneak into the park too? In all of the years I have been to KI this was the first time I saw line jumpers get kicked off of a ride. You know, it really makes you feel like there is justice in the world when a cutter gets taken care of. The other day in line for Firehawk, my friends and I had been waiting about a half hour and were in the middle of the que savannah when some guy and his girlfriend climbed right under the rail and cut the people directly behind us. The people they cut got really close to them to make an uncomfortable situation. The guy had an airbrushed shirt that said "Soulja Boy" if that helps to show his mentality. That actually reminds me of waiting in line for Halo 3. We had waited for six hours and were at the front of the line. The line ended up wrapping around the mall before they let us in at 12. This guy walks up to the opposite set of doors as the line and just hangs by the door. This was around 11-11:30. He ends up getting in right behind us when the doors opened and the stampede rushed Gamestop. There was nearly a fight. Everyone in line behind me was hassling the guy. Well, long story short, nothing happened and he remained there and we all got our game and I ended up being the first to get the Legendary Edition. So all in all it was a good night. Wow I drifted off topic.

I agree. The Revolution, was opened in 76 wasn't it? I think Arrow took risks, by that I mean they seemed to be ready to try things that had never been tried before. I admire that. The Bat was a risk because it had never been done before. It didn't work out but that's what trying new ideas is about. Arrow was ahead of their time and I think they inspired the ride industry. The Vortex is excellent. The Screamin Demon was a blast, but they over shadowed it when Vortex moved into the park. If the SD was still there I would ride it everytime I went. Flight Deck is great too, but not as good as The Bat. You put it perfectly, they were pioneers and they should be appreciated. (Just my opinion). I like Arrow designs, they pushed the envolope. You're right, it was built in '76. And as was pointed out, I was wrong. Revolution was actually built by Anton Schwarzkopf and designed by Werner Stengel. However, like CoasterKrazy said, Arrow did pioneer the first modern inverting coaster. What I forgot to mention is Magnum, the first coaster to break the 200ft barrier. This wasn't just a height record breaker but an instant classic. A ride that still stands up to the new Intamin bad boys that stand at 300ft and over. They proved that height and speed isn't the only thing a ride needed to provide an awesome experience. I won't say it's indisputable, but I will say it's difficult to dispute that Arrow was the driving force in steel coaster advancement of the main part of the 20th century. They tried new things and that's how we have coasters that stretch to 400 feet (albeit gimmicky) and coasters that go upside down 10 times. Ed Morgan, Ron Toomer and Karl Bacon, I take my hat off to you.

Ditto.

That would be awesome, but I can't see it happening. KI just isn't a resort park. It should be. But it's not.

That would be awesome, but I can't see it happening. KI just isn't a resort park. It should be. But it's not.

I don't know. I would consider Wild Thornberries Arrow if it were me. But I'm not sure what the official classification is. I would agree that they weren't keeping up with B&M and Intamin. They're modern ride manufacturers, Arrow wasn't. At least not in it's later years.

I gotta ask...what's wrong with the bike he's using? Looks like your basic motocross bike. I'm assuming he meant compared to Evel. Evel used a massive Harley. This bike is lighter weight.

I would definitely not say Arrow was a bad company. The rides removed, with the exception of The Bat, were old. It was their time. The Bat was a prototype, you can't expect to get everything right on a prototype. As said before, The Kings Mill Log Flume wasn't removed, just renovated and became The Wild Thornberries. Your count is a bit off, there are actually four Arrow rides, Flight Deck, Adventure Express, Vortex, and Wild Thornberries, there actually might be more but I can't think of any right now. Arrow has a very well-deserved place in roller coaster history. They pioneered the first tubular steel coaster, the first working looper (Revolution at Six Flags Magic Mountain), the suspended coaster, and the 4th dimension coaster. They aren't by any stretch of imagination a bad design company. They just mismanaged.

Very cool! I got a text as well, good job on BroadTexter.

That's nice. Nothing like a cartoon tribute to our new father!

That what I was thinking. They've been there awhile.

Actually, I think saw them sitting close to the greenhouses off the lift hill of Flight Deck the other day.

Okay, I get you. That makes sense.

I always look forward to your photo trip reports. Your photography manages to capture the feeling of the subject. Excellent work. Camden park looks like a nice little park that has escaped the building up craze other parks experience. I've considered heading there but I didn't know what lies in store. This certainly helps. A+ Ronny.

Doesn't that seem like a bad idea? It seems to me B&M has a better plan having Clermont Steel manufacture the parts here for US coasters. Why would you ship massive track pieces overseas considering fuel prices?

Mmmmmmm, me thinks ya don't know me so well. Ohhhhh, I gairrawwwnnteee that you are getting more babes on the back of your bike as well. - Let's hope it stays that way. <G> WIN!