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Phantom Theater: Opening Nightmare Construction Progress

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I'd have to disagree with the thought about budget appearance. 

Adventure Port is very well done.

Camp Snoopy is well done. 

The new part of Soak City spruced up the area.

I don't think they skimped in the appearance, the aesthetic is good.  It's just that the areas they did do are small.  

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42 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said:

It's just that the areas they did do are small.  

And I’m 100% fine with that. I mentioned a while back, and you correctly named it, “in filling“ where the park focuses on little additions at a time. I’d prefer smaller approaches for less $$$.

4 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said:

I'd have to disagree with the thought about budget appearance. 

Adventure Port is very well done.

Camp Snoopy is well done. 

The new part of Soak City spruced up the area.

I don't think they skimped in the appearance, the aesthetic is good.  It's just that the areas they did do are small.  

They did a good job with the theme and  appearance of Adventure Port.   But they definitely skimped on the rides in that expansion 

Instead of a quality 42 person Huss Enterprise they have an uncomfortable, low capacity knock off that doesn’t even tilt 90°.   Plus they didn’t even purchase a lighting package for it.   The barrel ride is one of the lowest quality versions of this type of ride    
 

They also skimped on the little bit of cost. It would’ve required to have provided shade in the queues to make the customers more comfortable.

So its a trade off   In the case of Adventure Port, they put lipstick on a pig.   It looks great, but that’s the best thing that can be said about that area.

 

 

 

6 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said:

I'd have to disagree with the thought about budget appearance. 

Adventure Port is very well done.

Camp Snoopy is well done. 

The new part of Soak City spruced up the area.

I don't think they skimped in the appearance, the aesthetic is good.  It's just that the areas they did do are small.  

While I do think the additions were very well done and were needed it feels like the thought behind each one was less thorough than before. I'll praise the park and a lot of the things it has done until my fingers grow weak, but that doesn't change the fact that a large enough amount of others online have questioned those recent choices for me to have doubts. I wholeheartedly agree with the fact that these mini-lands were done very well and helped improve them compared to what was there before. Part of my worrying is that there will be visible gaps in the thought process behind Phantom Theater: Opening Nightmare like there were with the other additions. Adventure Port and Camp Snoopy opened more than a month after the season started. Both Orion and River Racers were the smallest version of their models (giga coaster and water coasters) possible. Not all has been bad, though. Mystic Timbers remains one of my top rated coasters and has a great break run experience. The park added two amazing new restaurants and brought back the Antique Autos. Orion revitalized Area 72 and gave KI a veritable speed machine. The entire 50th Anniversary celebration hit the ball out of the park with its care and grandeur. Adventure Port and Camp Snoopy each took a dead area and breathed new life into it. Splash River Junction was a very good upgrade to Soak City alongside some much-needed restroom and facility renovations. The new Carousel Pavilion has provided a nicely shaded spot for guests to eat and a new venue for smaller shows. What we've seen from PT:ON so far has been absolutely amazing! The animatronics look really good and show that a lot of care has been put into the development of the new ride so far.

My phrasing might have been better said as to call those additions "vastly allocated" instead of "budget" attractions. A lot of good was done with some things falling short in each project. Remember when members of this site were wondering about the rest of the roof not being red on Enrique's?

6 hours ago, SonofBaconator said:

And I’m 100% fine with that. I mentioned a while back, and you correctly named it, “in filling“ where the park focuses on little additions at a time. I’d prefer smaller approaches for less $$$.

I really like the smaller approaches for less money, I just wish the park management (or whoever's left to do this sort of thing) would take a little more care to ensure that these major additions open on time and do more of what they set out to do. 

 

One thing I'm really excited to see is how much more colorful this new Phantom Theater might be compared to the original. I really liked how vibrant the new sets and displays that were shown off at IAAPA were!

After seeing the "DEMO LOOP" from the IAPPA show with Maestro and No Legs Larrys, I wouldn't be surprised if that was continuously shown in the lobby where the queue is.  Seem to tell the story and be about 15 minutes long.  (of course I'd much rather have what was done before.):

 

On 11/13/2025 at 10:51 AM, DiamondbackFan said:

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I've been questioning this permit for a while.  Is the $900,000 supposed to be the entire cost?  It seems very, very cheap for a complete overhaul.  I'd expect this project to cost in the neighborhood of $5M - 10M.

Maybe the amount shown here is for the exterior work?  That seems about the amount it would likely cost for the entrance overlay...

I feel like both of the figures shown at IAPPA would stretch that $900k number. Surely, that’s just for one aspect of the project. 

On 11/30/2025 at 8:23 PM, BeeastFarmer said:

I'd have to disagree with the thought about budget appearance. 

Adventure Port is very well done.

Camp Snoopy is well done. 

The new part of Soak City spruced up the area.

I don't think they skimped in the appearance, the aesthetic is good.  It's just that the areas they did do are small.  

Camp snoopy is “sort of” well done. There’s so much they could’ve easily done to make it feel way more complete. Starting with, why isn’t the ride themed to a tree not in the area themed to camping in the outdoors? 

And why are there two dozen different kinds of concrete surfacing?

And that extra seating area for the mess hall, seems like that, and the turf for it, got relocated to build the pavilion by the Carousel...

On 12/3/2025 at 12:40 AM, brenthodge said:

Camp snoopy is “sort of” well done. There’s so much they could’ve easily done to make it feel way more complete. Starting with, why isn’t the ride themed to a tree not in the area themed to camping in the outdoors? 

I've often wondered why the park didn't include the Kite Eating Tree or Snoopy's Space Buggies in Camp Snoopy. There's a case to be made for SSB not fitting into the camping theme, nor might the other four rides on that side of Planet Snoopy, but I feel like there's a way the park could've made them fit without changing much at all. That would've at least made two more equally-sized areas. Given that it felt like they ran out of money I think adding more might've been a little out of the question.

 

As likely as it might be that no exterior work will happen until after Winterfest, I'd love to see the park or Sally Dark Rides put out a December teaser with either some material/set close-ups or another look at the inside of the building. They've been releasing a new piece each month and I hope that can continue. I wonder if there will be screens for the scores like on the Justice League dark rides or if the scores will only be shown in the ride vehicles like with SDatHC and BBoBH.

That’s a nice looking color that I think will look even better under low light, looks like the some color as the balcony box at the old opera theaters which is obviously what they want 

Pumped for tomorrow! Really digging the commitment to keeping these updates going. What do you think we’ll see? 
 

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1 hour ago, Orion-XL200 said:

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Another photo from the guy on Reddit 

Definitely looking more classy already 

Sigh… I don’t know what it is but the idea of some KI fans in a large group like Season Passholders knowing this location is giving massive “trespassing” vibes. Same thing as the Batavia Factory with some people. I know it’s not everyone in the group but the fact that these photos exist for indulgent minds…
 

idk… just a feeling. Just get reminded of a time a few members from KICentral once entered the Batavia plant during Diamondbacks construction.

18 hours ago, beastfan11 said:

Pumped for tomorrow! Really digging the commitment to keeping these updates going. What do you think we’ll see? 
 

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Who's ready for the next reveal?

3 minutes ago, johnjniehaus said:

So....where is it? Nearly 4pm and we still got nothing? 

There's still 8 more hours in the day...they could post it at 11:59 p.m. and their post yesterday would still technically be correct :P

But I agree with you. As an impatient person, I am surprised it has not been posted yet!

25 minutes ago, KIghostguy said:

There's still 8 more hours in the day...they could post it at 11:59 p.m. and their post yesterday would still technically be correct :P

But I agree with you. As an impatient person, I am surprised it has not been posted yet!

I pity the social media person who is working so late :P

26 minutes ago, BryanJay said:

… guess I called off work for nothing today :unsure:

I considered it… Ha. 

31 minutes ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:

They just shared an Instagram story.....it was just a Six Flags post about a pass giveaway lol. 

Hey. If 14 people can forget they left Kevin at home it’s possible they forgot the post about PT:ON

 

(watch the KI post if you don’t understand)

They're looking good so far! I hope they can achieve a little more of a glossy red for the final product, but even the current finish looks like a nice change compared to the Boo Blasters "oozy" look. The fact that the roundels are still on there is a little strange since they went through the trouble of rendering the rest of the doom buggies without them for the teaser art. 

Image: Kings Island / Sally Dark Rides via KICentral.com

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Photos: Rick Davis via DAFE (https://www.dafe.org/articles/darkrides/scoobyDooHauntedCastle.html)

These same ride vehicles in their original form.

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The ride vehicles in their Mystery Machine scheme, complete with front-mounted "tire".

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A view of the initial castle construction that shows how the new was built over the old.

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