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My guess is that this new ride (like a lot of B&M's) is going to be a "people eater." Even in slow operation, it's going to move a linn relatively quickly. There may be a few weeks/months where temporary queues are needed ala Diamondback 2009, but just via proximity—Flight of Fear is probably going to see an uptick in interest/ridership. Unlike a reliable B&M ride with three trains that can each seat 32 riders, Flight of Fear's two small trains don't move people as quickly. It may need the additional space of Firehawk's queue for a season or two to handle crowds in that area. Like Dominion, KI should add a third train to FoF, but that was a losing battle years ago.

Thanks! I see it now. Trying to envision how the crew will change out all the trash cans using those stairs. I imagine all trash will have to be bertha'd away to the nearest food stand, and then the next closest when the first food stand is already backed up with weeks of un-emptied dumpsters and decaying ice cream. Big if true. Thanks for the clarification and insight, the wall was definitely throwing me off. Appreciate it!

I wonder if they're assuming that FOF's ridership will skyrocket simply via proximity or if Firehawk's former queue will be overflow for the new ride until things die down? Fun fact: FOF's "pre-shows" were designed to only be heard once. There are two: the radio programs that played outside and the video inside. In theory, with four trains running at full capacity, riders would be moved along quickly enough to hear the outdoor recordings once and see the video once before entering the saucer. Not that the ride ever ran with four trains, moved that efficiently, or had that much up time at the outset... @BSBMX - am I interpreting the above drawings correctly in that the exit path of Project X will lead to the Firehawk queue stairs (which used to lead you down and to one of the stations)?

Did you get LaRosa's though?

Appears to have been July 26, 2014.

Why go with quality when you can probably just scrounge up some second-rate Gerstlauer trains for cheap?

Thanks for this photograph and your continued insight, @BSBMX. Off-topic question: The re-tracking of The Racer seen in that photo-has the ride improved at all and was it done by a particular company? On-topic question: One of the comments repeated on KIC since 2007 has been that XBase needs a restroom. Have these blueprints revealed the potential of any restrooms being constructed? On-topic followup question: If the park does build restrooms in X-Base to go along with this new ride, will they be somewhat shorter, abbreviated, and only almost as good as their Canada and Carolina counterparts?

2 + 2 = 5

I notice a severe lack of wings that have a little kick to them. Will not be attending.

There should be a book one day, because man oh man.... you wouldn't believe.

haha, totally get it. And I hope they pull it off well. Food at the park should be unique and an experience just like everything else. They've made great strides over the years. Just need to maintain and deliver on their goals.

Hope it has a little kick to it. Yes, but will the food... Actually be any good? Actually be available? Be prepped and delivered by adequate staffing?

Thank you, @AZ Kinda Guy. Any insight on generators and power redundancies?

Depends on the ride model (@pkiridesmaint please correct me if I’m wrong), while most are pneumatic, I don’t think Diamondback/Banshee’s are? Or they may be pneumatic, but are configured differently than “pinch brakes” seen on rides like Beast and Racer. I also believe that the Arrow coasters (AE/Vortex) don’t have default position of closed. I.E. in some areas of the ride (stations I believe), the trains have to be chained up at night because the air drains from the brakes (by design) and is no longer holding the train in place. That’s what I remember, but again @pkiridesmaint—feel free to correct. I’m also not sure that the generators automatically kick on? By default, the coaster’s will come to a stop at their prescribed brake locations, but even if a generator were to start up, the ride does not continue operating as normal. In the event of a power outage, they’d be more likely to evacuate the ride rather than get it running again. Not to get way too off topic, but I’m not sure which rides have generators. I know Diamondback has the Kohler that’s visible by its lift hill. I believe Flight of Fear has one too. The Crypt/Tomb Raider had one as well.

Diamondback has a Kohler Diesel Generator situated nearby. Several other rides have a similar one. However, these are rarely used. In the event of a power outage—so long as the trains are in a normal stopped locations with proper accessibility—they’d most likely just evacuate the guests and wait for power to be restored before firing up a generator.

That's my bad, @BSBMX. I mistakenly thought "Hot Shot" was "Big Shot." Could totally be a similar/updated product, but I was remembering the wrong company.

You mean Grand CarnEvil, a season long celebration of the classic Haunt maze.

Edit: Don't listen to my ramblings. Go to the park and have fun.

Agreed. Snoopy's Starlight "Spectacular."

FFS, hasn't it been confirmed by multiple people on here that they waltzed right up to city hall and requested said blueprints?

By having the ride breakdown repeatedly then they’ll rip it up, move it, and shut down KI after a few years.

I’m not sure if that’s the correct company linked to, but “Hot Shot” is in fact a brand of ride/souvenir camera systems. When Cedar Fair took over in 2006, most ride/souvenir cameras were upgraded to “hot shot.” Six Flags also uses them. I can’t find a photo off hand, but if anyone has a high res photo of Beast’s first drop, Vortex’s boomerang, or Firehawk—you’ll likely see the hot shot logo on the camera.

I did always wonder what The Beast would be like with Arrow track and a Ron Toomer inspired layout.

This photograph is amazing. I knew the exit path once went under the station and out near where KCKC was, but I never realized there was another path under the keelboats. I wonder where it went.

Prove it.