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They could probably add about 3,200sf of space if they expanded into the service courtyard between the Swiss building and the Festhaus. This could be enough space to move the kitchens back into the new space, freeing some additional space for more tables. Some reconfigurations would need to be done between the restrooms, offices, and whatever else is in that northwest corner of the FH, but I think it could do some good for the capacity. There would need to be some areas with even worse sightlines for the shows. The other side of International Street has a much narrower service area, so there may still be some good room for this one to maintain functionality. Harmony Hall at Carowinds is very nice because it has three food stalls and one central checkout location. There are also three food lines in the Festhaus, the difference being that HH separates the "Grill" and "Pizza" lines where the FH has two lines that serve both. If this Festhaus addition were to be built I'd like to see three food stalls go in toward where the normal Festhaus (LaRosa's) food line is, then also move Panda Express (or a new dining location) over to that new line. This could provide a space for Oktoberfest foods while allowing it to be easily changed depending on the season. It would also allow both kitchens to be combined into one big ghost kitchen (like I believe Harmony Hall has) where the food is prepared together and taken to each serving counter. Like with Kings Island and Busch Gardens Williamsburg, Fiesta Texas has a large food hall in their German-themed section. I think it just got a big renovation and even has some Oktoberfest-style food available in it. Part of this issue may be that the Oktoberfest theme isn't very strong at Kings Island like it is at those regional events. Guests may be intrigued by bratwursts, beer, and big pretzels, but when that is the only food available (and is not on the meal plan) they may not be as into it. There is also the fact that the park has been treated as an amusement park with theming rather than being a theme park with thrilling amusements. The themed festival atmosphere might help get guests into the mood for German foods: that simply does not exist at KI right now. I have a dream that we can see a New Oktoberfest area that encompasses the current Oktoberfest and Action Zone, but I have a horrible feeling that Six Flags will either try to shove DC characters into AZ or choose to let the area continue to sit there. Imagine if they put up more permanent decorations and overall German/Bavarian/Oktoberfest theming. Banshee and The Bat could probably stay the same, but a festival overlay would make the area feel more lively overall.

All of the little things adding up are making the experience worse overall. It'd be better if one major operation could stay consistent, but everything has decreased in quality overall. I will likely renew my pass next year, though maybe not with all of the bells and whistles I'd normally get. I'm conflicted because even though my experiences this season haven't been too bad, I don't know how much I can support a company that continues to slash and burn at every turn. That being said, I also know that Kings Island (and Six Flags beyond them) can't survive without ticket and pass sales. The best thing they can do to get me to buy a 2026 season pass is to also hold the MVP sale and allow people to buy the Gold Pass and APP for $99. Once the base price for those two goes above $160 again, I'm going to have to start questioning how much I can afford to get the same add-ons that I have this year. I'm somewhat fine with the sprinkling of ads around the park, the slower operations, and some of the smaller cleanliness issues. The company needs to cut some operations to be able to pay off its overwhelming debt. My upsets with the entertainment lineup are to be expected for a park that, just three years ago, had anniversary entertainment options that rivaled those at the Disney Parks. Shows are expensive to run and require more associates to operate than most rides do. Even the drop in food quality hasn't quite soured my tastes beyond recovery. The meals are still good enough so far and I've effectively paid off my meal plan. All of the stories about the decline of the park this season have me very concerned for its future. Six Flags has the power to severely fracture its relationship with its guests, and all I can do right now is really hope good things come out of this darker age. I've loosely advocated for it in the past, but I really do think parks like Kings Island would be better off if they were not a part of Six Flags right now. Whether pass prices would skyrocket, or if quality would drastically change, or if we'd see the park begin to improve over how it has been this year are things I don't know. What I do know is that chains like Herschend have been able to maintain a consistent quality across all of their (pre-Palace acquisition) parks despite the economic challenges here in the US. Yes, they are privately owned, but who says an independent Kings Island (with some other parks) would not be privately owned? This whole situation makes you wonder what would make things better for Kings Island and its guests at this time.

It was an arcade up until about 2010-2014 when they emptied the arcade and turned it into KillMart. If you've seen old photos from the big Coney Mall expansion, its the building with the big and really cool "SKEEBALL" sign on it. The big garage door is closed on the 2011 Google Street View capture, so I don't know what it was used for during that time between the arcade and KillMart. I also thought Skeeball Court would be a good name for that restaurant for the nostalgia factor, but the way the company is going seems like anything new can only be a dream.

I thought I read somewhere that initial developments would've seen either Flight of Fear or another attraction in Area 72 themed to Star Trek and/or specifically the Borg. It was possibly a new attraction for the Firehawk/Orion plot; although, I may be thinking of a similar Starfleet Academy attraction developed for Kings Dominion's King Kobra/I-305/Pantherian plot of land. Volcano: The Blast Coaster was likely only themed to a volcano because it used the old Lost Mountain structure. I believe it was one of the last Taft/KECO additions to the park as well. Carowinds did get a relocated Stealth for 2004 and renamed it as the Borg Assimilator (complete with the giant Borg Sphere in the water). Kings Dominion's Star Trek attraction was cancelled at some point. Does anyone know if Paramount Parks were always headquartered in Charlotte, or was there a time when they were headquartered closer to Kings Island? Interestingly enough it seems their old HQ building was one parking lot over from where the Cedar Fair Charlotte offices would then be located, and where it seems the official new Six Flags Home Office HQ is. It's kind of fun to see that the corporate offices have seemingly been in that same office park for 25 years now. KECO once had a trademark holder address at P.O. Box 300 Kings Island, Ohio. There were also a ton of initial trademarks addressed to Taft Broadcasting's former homes on Highland Ave. (Local 12) and Young St. (WLWT 5) around the Mt. Auburn in Cincinnati.

Michigan's Adventure has been in the process of smoothing their wood coasters and doing some other general improvements to the park, but they just haven't received the investment that they should. The lower tier parks have been pushed to the wayside while Cedar Point got three new coasters in three years. It's a charming little park but it could use some of the love the chain is now trying to bring to the Legacy Six Flags parks. If I recall correctly, MA's Tricks and Treats was just a few weekends instead of every weekend in September and October. That being said, one ticket to Cedar Point hardly seems like just compensation. It also does not sound like a good idea logistically since Cedar Point is always jam packed during the Fall season. I'd rather have seen them offer a ticket where you could choose between going to SF Great America (3h45m away), Cedar Point (4h30m away), or Kings Island (6h away). This also makes me wonder what the compensation ticket will look like for All-Park Passport holders. Do they also get a free ticket? I'd suppose so, but it seems like a useless item unless they can use it to bring a friend to Cedar Point. Is that ticket only able to be used for the passholder? Once again, so many simple questions whose answers are clear as mud. I'd bet Six Flags is banking on the fact that the customers who could use that complimentary ticket will either a) naturally spread out their visits so not everyone is there during HalloWeekends, or b) not go at all. Michigan is probably one of the only states you'd see the state AG go after Six Flags for this, but even then there may not be a good case beyond "You cut nine operating days from the calendar, and did not provide adequate compensation". Court decisions keep bending toward the worse outcome for consumers these days.

My only issue with putting in another Farmhouse Kitchen-style restaurant is that, at its most basic form, it's just a rustic Coney Bar-B-Que/Island Smokehouse. I wouldn't mind a new dining location with that setup, but it would be nice to have another location with permanent indoor seating. Make the building bigger and put some tables inside of it, and it could be really nice.

The parade they've been putting on for Grand Carnivale is one of the best I've seen at a theme park. The 50 Years of Fun parade back in 2022 is a close second, but Carnivale's is first. It is much better, in my opinion, than the Winterfest parades. While I doubt Six Flags will be willing to bring the event back, I hope whatever might replace it is very fun and good for the park.

They could probably just keep getting new automatic cameras (someone staring at you on a waterslide with a camera might be too creepy). Having dedicated self-service kiosks for FunPix could be nice to have though. Put one or two at each ride photo stand — especially for when there are no associates in them — and have guests put in their information so it can be ready for them to pick up at the FunPix building by the front gate(s). Do they sell photo keychains? I haven't seen that option in years, but then again I don't look out for my ride photos too often. I do think Kings Island needs to build a dedicated add-on redemption center like Cedar Point has. They'd probably need to either move the FunPix building or put it where the FastLane booth is, but it would be nice to have something like that rather than shoving everyone into Guest Services or sending them on a wild goose chase throughout the park to purchase a meal plan.

They do already make the longer update videos, yes, but I was referring to quicker posts that can be shot in one take (such as for a Reel or TikTok). Lack of a very poorly controlled narrative is a big part of why I think Six Flags has been seeing so much negativity recently. That, added on top of the vast budget cuts and the "continue as if this is normal" mentality we've been seeing, is damaging to the parks and the company as a whole. I don't think they should need to advertise everything on social media, but they definitely need to fix their PR strategies and start doing things that guests will see as improvements. That means announcing permanent ride closures before the season ends, working hard to get rides opened / re-opened in a timely manner, and advertising things to do in the park beyond one or two quirky short videos per month. Guests both want and need to know what is happening! Just tell them something! Do it before someone else does, because not doing so leaves room for other people to lie! Seen anything from KI about the Monster lately? Remember when it was "reported" to be permanently closed? Any post is a sign of life from the park, and frequent posts about things going on are what can encourage guests to have a positive outlook on the park. Social media may not influence ride choices, but it should be used by the parks to influence peoples opinion of the parks! Thank you for reading my ramblings

The increased scrutiny coming from social media may cause some parks to choose more proven options when selecting their next ride, however I believe it may affect something else more. We've seen an increase in comments and posts about ride closures, but I believe those comments are due to a change in ride reliability — not because of ride models themselves. Some recent shut downs have been due to unforeseen circumstances. Intamin forced the temporary closure of their straddle coasters (like Darkoaster and Quantum Accelerator), leading Six Flags to move the QA opening date to 2026. Looking at social media, Cedar Point has had an awful year due to ride closures; however, a lot of those can be accurately attributed to weather and possible lay-offs in maintenance departments. What we may see from the increased scrutiny is some of the larger chains shifting their strategies around for all operations in general. If new rides won't open until mid-season, yet guests still come to the parks in similar numbers overall, we may begin to see this trend continue. If the attendance numbers are perceived to be harmed by the delayed openings, then the chain may choose to spend more to ensure an attraction opens much closer to opening day. A park like Cedar Point may begin to hire more maintenance staff if multiple of their coasters continue to experience consistent or increased downtime. There might also be a flurry of new infrastructure projects at some parks to increase their reliability. Imagine if Cedar Point, Carowinds, or Kings Island built solar panel shade structures over their parking lot to increase electrical capacity and get a boost of positive media coverage (not to mention some solar credits if those ever come back). To avoid major backlash, places like Magic Mountain may rebuild their wheelchair/stroller capacity as they try to entice new visitors: including families whose day at the park may be ruined if the park didn't have enough for rentals. Some parks may make subtle changes to their logos and marketing strategies to bring something new to their social media pages. We've seen this at a few Six Flags parks where they've introduced a new logo where the "Six Flags" branding and the park name are much closer to the same size and vertically aligned to each other. Great Adventure's (second) new sign has this format, while some parts of the park are dropping the Six Flags branding (Great Adventure's Sweet Spot and Great Adventure's Holiday in the Park come to mind). Something we will hopefully also see is parks or chains getting back in front of the narrative with their media and PR teams. This is something that Six Flags is greatly suffering from this year. What they should not do is continue to hide and cower behind closed doors. If an incident happens, then the park or chain needs to be there on the front line. If a ride is experiencing a delayed opening, then the park or chain needs to say so. That could be something as simple as: "Heavy rains have stopped work here at our construction site, but we hope to get back on track soon!" or something more invested like a short video update showing off an interesting aspect of construction. Will we see a change in attraction choices due to social media? I don't think so. That will probably be caused more by external factors such as tariffs and ride erection costs. Will we see a change in operational strategies due to social media? Uh yeah, I sure hope we will. (reference intended)

I've heard Great America's Superman has more foliage/stuff around it than Great Adventure's version has, so I wonder if that could be a part of it. This seems like an awesome park! I wonder what fun things we might see next year for their 50th. My guess for their new kids area is that Camp Snoopy will replace their Yukon Territory (where CGA also has their Planet Snoopy, funnily enough) and replace their go karts with a SSBR or SRR clone. I think Mexico is getting a SSBR clone as well. It'd also be a great time to introduce a new logo more in line with Six Flags' new branding strategies, but I don't know if we'll see that happen.

The amount of trees and shade that Kings Dominion offers is always astounding to me. I constantly hear people talk about how nice Kings Island looks because of the nature and foliage, and have to wonder what they would say if the park still had as much foliage and trees as Kings Dominion has. They've definitely been shorted on their 50th celebration, but I hope the park can maintain their improvements and can continue to at least maintain the level they are currently at with the park. I'd love to see more improvements to the entertainment and operations in coming years as Six Flags adjusts further into its new form. The fountains, foliage, and small-element theming are what Kings Island needs to re-introduce to improve their International Street. Making some small (in the grand scheme of things) changes would help improve the atmosphere a ton until the park gets some more money to do a larger project. Things like angling the outer fountain jets inward or outward, replacing the grass with white stones/expanding the flower beds (similar to what existed from 1972-1982), and placing some static information kiosks near the front entrance would do so much.

What do they do for the Conjuring mazes at other Six Flags parks? Is it a guided tour through a maze or a separate experience altogether. This could lighten the blow with the introduction of the Haunted Attractions Pass if it's a heightened experience as well. I'd like to note that the posting does not include the word "maze" anywhere on it. They call it a new "nightmare", an "experience", a "world", and the "horror". Is it a new maze or another kind of attraction? Could we be seeing some version of Universal's RIP Tour coming to Kings Island for Haunt? Great Adventure recently released a new VIP tour experience, and it seems this model may soon come to other parks as well. This makes me wonder if they would do The Conjuring at some parks but use another IP at other parks. Last year, Fright Fest had a bunch of different IP mazes including Stranger Things, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, a maze for the Saw 20th Anniversary, The Conjuring, and Trick r Treat. Some of Magic Mountain's mazes seem to be going through a complete overhaul as well. I wish they could have built a "stage" in there so you wouldn't have to go down and back up those stairs, but I have a feeling that might also require the installation of fire sprinklers under the stage. That's a lot of extra storage space the park could have under a maze if they wanted to do it. I've also always found it interesting where the parks choose to use "Halloween Haunt" versus just "HAUNT". The only difference between the two logos is just the inclusion/omission of "Halloween", but you'd think there would be some reasoning behind the use of one versus the other. The front entrance sign they put up says "Kings Island HAUNT", they use "Halloween Haunt" for the online postings, and there is even a difference on those job posting flyers. It's just an interesting thing for them to do.

It looks like the discrepancy is that Six Flags wants to sell it to a developer but the municipality/locals want to keep it as a park. I'm sure it would be a similar situation to what is happening with CGA's land, where the city was going to try to save some of the park until the developer won out. Lots of people online also keep trying to choose which chain should buy up the land (there's also a lot of racism in the comments). Some are suggesting Herschend (very unlikely), others are suggesting United (maybe if the SeaWorld name didn't carry so much baggage), and a few just keep talking about how Six Flags and Cedar Fair chose where to invest. Then you have the commenters suggesting a new Universal park as everyone else tears up at the idea of Disney's America finally happening after nearly 30 years. A new Disney's America would be interesting, and it wouldn't necessarily be the worst idea if Disney is willing to put a lot of work into it. A good amount of infrastructure is already there on site, there's already some general theming in place, and Six Flags will probably cart away whatever they can while leaving a largely blank slate. Most of the stuff behind Wild One would probably be completely redeveloped while the rest of the rides and coasters would be demolished and replaced. Universal just built a much bigger park from scratch. I can imagine there's at least one Imagineer who'll be pulling out their sketchbook this weekend and drafting ideas for a new Disney's America to be located near Bowie, MD. I won't say it's likely at all, but again, it wouldn't be the worst idea for Disney to do it.

Does anyone know what the building between Graeter's and First Aid is used for? It was always covered in vines before the 2019 International Street refresh. I'd guess that it was more offices spilling over from the park administration buildings, but there don't seem to be any functional windows and it isn't connected like the other two buildings are. I think if a second floor was added (or if the whole structure were rebuilt with one) it could be a great spot for an indoor VIP Lounge. It's kind of tucked away while still being visible to guests who know what it is. The lounge itself wouldn't be terribly big, but it would add capacity, it could add value to the Prestige Pass, and it could be used as a special event space as well if the park chose to do so. With a second floor it would also be a similar size to Kings Dominion's VIP Lounge.

Double posting because I wanted to post this little guy from when WEBN sponsored FearFest back in 2002 He's one of the reasons why I love the WaybackMachine (https://web.archive.org/web/20021001214200/http://www.pki.com/fearfest_info_2.jsp)

SCarowinds and Halloween Haunt at Dorney Park are also presented by Snickers this year. It seems most of the big Legacy Six Flags parks have their Fright Fest sponsored, while around half of the Legacy Cedar Fair parks that have a Haunt event also have their event sponsored. If it brings in money to make the event better, then I'm fine with it. Same with the upcharge for mazes. We haven't seen much work besides the new maze and the demolition of Madam Fatale's. I hope the company has decided to sink some serious initial investment into Halloween Haunt that they can compensate for using the funds raised by the new Haunted Attractions passes. Guests will not be happy if they now have to pay $20 for the mazes that will now be 6-11 years old. It's possible they could get away easier if they change up three-ish mazes (not even changing the theme, just the decorations and routes), but I do not have faith in this company for that. The downside to up-charging for mazes, as everyone has stated, is that it will drive the wait times for everything else up. Like I said in another post about rides and things to do in the park during the normal season, Kings Island simply does not have enough Halloween Haunt attractions to be able to hold the amount of people who attend the event. As of 2024 Kings Island has, what, six mazes with minimal staffing? Three shows, one of which being a glorified costume contest (run by a marvelous actor) at an event where most guests aren't allowed to wear costumes? The scare zones have been getting better, and have been one of the only things that has consistently been changed over the past 5 years. To mitigate the crowds the park could use at least eight mazes, five nightly shows (not including opening and closing ceremonies), all of the normal rides open during Haunt, and a number of additional attractions (with maybe one or two being an up-charge). Remember the casket "live burial" experience? The nightly Haunt-cert with local bands? The interactive lanterns were a new way to play during the Halloween season, and then they split them into two separate products for Winterfest. Why should I spend $35+ on an interactive item that only changes color? Hopefully we will see an upgraded Halloween Haunt event this year. Hopefully it will continue to reap the benefits of the increased revenue. Unfortunately it cannot be guaranteed that we'll see any of that. I wish they would make the event an up-charge for non-passholders and have the Haunted Attractions Pass be a slight up-charge after that. SCarowinds was an up-charge for one season, and then they pulled the plug on that because it didn't meet expectations and the execution was kind of sloppy. Close the park at 5:30PM, funnel passholders and Haunt ticket holders into a few designated areas around 6PM, and release everyone in time for the opening ceremony at 7PM. Other parks are super experienced in transitioning from the fun by day to the fright by night model. Why not take some pointers from them? Other haunts have been charging much higher amounts for events like this (albeit with a better product) for ages. Why not upgrade to justify the costs? There are a lot of opportunities that the new Six Flags could be taking as a company, but are not. There are also a lot of things that the new Six Flags should be doing to mitigate the harm done by these new changes, but are not. Halloween Haunt is not and will never be Halloween Horror Nights. That being said, it is not yet should be far above the average home town haunted house.

If they're going to put in a new restaurant, I've got my eyes set on something going in the KillMart building with indoor seating, some outdoor seating along the KMAA fence, and a new kitchen and serving area added onto the back of the building. There's enough space for it and it would activate that area of the park more. Give the inside some good Victorian-ish decorations and it could even bring some of those vibes back to Coney Mall (lost with the removal of Coney Potato Works and the old ICEE stand). Or maybe a new quick-service/refresh station either where The Beast Canyon Cold Drinks stand used to be (you could put a bandstand across from it), or on the side of the path just past Diamondback's train shed. Make it bigger than the Shooting Star Cafe. A larger Brewhouse-style indoor restaurant could fit in the Saltwater Circus plot and be very useful for Winterfest. In all reality, Chicken Shack could have its dining areas enclosed (like was done at Kings Dominion) and a new quick-service location with better flow can replace the Ice Scream Zone if Action Zone ever finally gets redone.

They could always take it down if guests stop buying the Haunted Attractions Pass Kings Island has been known to only dip their metaphorical toes in the water instead of jumping right in the pool. I'd be more supportive of it if we knew it worked more like a tasting card than as a one-night pass. It would also be nice to know whether or not the funds raised from these new passes will go toward improving the mazes and staffing them more. Kings Island hasn't made a post calling for scare actors yet, and that has me wondering if there is a plan that we're not seeing. Hi yes this was also one of my posts! LMC here, creator of topics and frequent poster of many things. It's very clear that this is all still in the early stages of being set up. I really hope it works out for Kings Island in the long run.

Now that we are halfway through July, it may be time to give the 2025 Halloween Haunt season its discussion thread. Seasonal events like Halloween Horror Nights, Howl-O-Scream, and Halloween Haunt all have parts of their websites published already. A number of the HHN houses have already been announced with Fallout, Five Nights at Freddy's, and Terrifier being notable standouts. Carowinds has also released a teaser for SCarowinds 25 Years of Fear, celebrating the event's 25th anniversary (delayed by one year due to the COVID-19 pandemic). I would love to see Kings Island put on a similar celebration since this will also be their 25 Years of Fear celebration, whether they advertise it or not. Kings Island is rumored to receive at least one new haunt maze in the building formerly occupied by Club Blood and Blackout, built by the trusted Plague Productions team. Rumors speculate that it could be themed to a story from The Conjuring, while some park-goers hope for it to be themed to vampires, gothic horror, or even a pirate maze. 2024 saw the addition of the new "Hooked" scare zone between Viking Fury and Adventure Port, as well as a new unnamed themed area along the path between the Rivertown LaRosa's and Jukebox Diner. Additional rumors are circulating around the former Tomb Raider: The Ride / The Crypt building, formerly home to Madame Fatale's Cavern of Terror, as it has been cleared to begin construction on Kings Island's 2026 attraction or for a new 2025 Halloween Haunt maze. Online sleuths recently discovered a new Haunted Attractions Pass and a Haunted Attractions Express Pass to be available at Kings Dominion. Playing around with the URL also reveals the same program coming to Canada's Wonderland, Carowinds, Cedar Point, Dorney Park, and Kings Island. The same website for Valleyfair still has dates listed as available for their Haunted Attractions Passes, with Friday and Sunday prices at $10/HAP and $55/HAEP. Saturday prices are currently set at $20/HAP and $60/HAEP. Prices at other Legacy Cedar Fair parks appear to range from $10-$40 for the standard pass and up to $70 for the Express pass. A similar program existed at Fright Fest throughout the Legacy Six Flags parks, where park visitors would need to purchase an additional pass to enter indoor walkthrough attractions during the event. These new tickets will hopefully bring some calm to the crowd levels and allow for Kings Island to begin receiving some well-needed upgrades to their Halloween Haunt event. What do you think Halloween Haunt will look like in 2025? Will you be attending? Halloween Haunt at Kings Island will be held select nights from September 19th to November 1st, 2025. This event is intended for mature audiences and is not recommended for children under 13. Kings Island will maintain its no re-entry after 6:00 PM during Halloween Haunt for 2025. It's time to get excited! Event Website: https://www.visitkingsisland.com/events/haunt

FYE Coasters posted screenshots and a link from the Kings Dominion ticket purchasing page showing new ticket add-ons, including a Haunted Attractions Pass and a Haunted Attractions Express Pass. I'm not totally sure how this link was acquired, but the links are the same as the rest of the Kings Dominion ticket pages. Prices are different on each screenshot (which could have been for different nights), though the quantity links have since been removed and only the website remains. I believe the Haunted Attractions Express Pass may be a replacement for Fright Lane. I'm super curious how this will pan out, and what it will look like overall. If I can get back to last year's Fright Fest website I'll try to make another post here with how their system was set up. We've seen a ton of developments from a lot of major Six Flags parks haunted mazes, including work at Carowinds, Kings Island, and Magic Mountain. I would not be shocked if the whole system is getting an upgrade to be the first major ticket/naming/event consistency across all Six Flags parks. Link to the Kings Dominion ticket purchasing page where this was found: https://cf-kd.store.cffunkd.com/fastlanewizardstatic/HauntedAttractionsPass?_cid=1750345194.1744563098 Link to the Kings Island ticket purchasing page which shows the same: https://cf-ki.store.cffunki.com/fastlanewizardstatic/HauntedAttractionsPass?_cid=1750345194.1744563098 Link to the FYE Coasters Facebook post: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/16Zm1E26ir/?mibextid=wwXIfr Screenshots from said post:

How much of Carousel Park and Celebration Plaza do you think a Timber Hallow area would take up? I really enjoy the vibe of Carousel Park whenever I go. This could be the stretch of path between Starbucks and the Carowinds Theater that includes the tunnel, but it would be a mini-land like Adventure Port and Camp Snoopy at Kings Island.

Do you have the link to see that trademark filing? I'd be interested to see if there's any more info for it and other of the Millennium Operations filings.

I was looking at different pass hierarchy systems between park chains for a different project before Canada's Wonderland unveiled their MVP sale. The biggest differences between Six Flags and the other companies is that Six Flags (and Cedar Fair / Six Flags before it) offers access to all of their parks as a prominently standard option separate from being its own pass tier. Parks like California's Great America only offer a Gold Pass and a Gold Pass with the All Park Passport. The other difference is that 2025 Six Flags parks all have different pass systems which only generally follow a standard hierarchy. The Gold Pass is the only option offered at every park. Meanwhile, I've seen variations between parks having park memberships, basically an EZ Pay option, separate from regular pass sales; the Silver Pass; the Prestige Pass (this one is somewhat understandable); a KidZPass, which is also open for Seniors aged 62+ to buy; a Summer Pass; a Pre-K Pass; a Season Pass; the FUN-Jumper pass, a regional park passport; the All-Park Passport; and all kinds of varying benefits that aren't even standardized across either former company's legacy parks. If I were someone trying to figure out if I wanted to buy a my first season pass to a Six Flags park, I think I'd get more frustrated trying to understand what is offered than it should be worth. The unclear language with mixed reviews are making me, someone who's obsessed with these parks, question how comfortable I am with getting my pass with all of the add-ons that I want. I can't imagine trying to go through this without prior knowledge and a forum like KIC. With so many things being centralized to regional teams and Six Flags corporate teams, the lack of complete standardization looks very worrying. Yes, different parks can offer different things based on what they have, but I don't think it is too much to ask for more standardization beyond pass names and hierarchy. That all being said: $100-ish to get into every Six Flags park for all of 2026 is a deal that I think most people should take advantage of. If you've got the money for the regular pass prices, this is super worth it IMO. If Six Flags wants to give away the gate then let them do it — it'll probably make them more money than they did with the 2020/2021 season pass situation. Maybe that means they'll be able to get closer to their projected numbers and make some good additions in 2026 and 2027, and possibly get to a good place for 2028.

This is the kind of thing that should have been laid out in the pass benefits or as part of the promotion itself. The way it is phrased now makes it seem like there would not be an All Park Passport add-on, and that the whole program would have been folded into regular Gold and Prestige Pass sales. Both this and the two free Single-use Fast Lane passes you get for buying via the promotion are laid out as being something that will always be sold as a part of the pass. Whoever put this MVP sale and pass sales page together may need to find a new proofreader, or be given more time to actually make sure their pages are able to be understood. This and other questions the new pass sales bring up make me wonder if desperation is making them sloppy, or if the wording is intentionally vague and confusing. It could be both. Nobody should have to call the parks to figure out something that could have been said directly on the website.