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Some of the zoomed in, detailed blueprints of the station and queue area show 8 lines and gates in the loading station. EDIT: Credit to @Banding Banshee

I've always gone by a qualifying height OR drop length for determining hypers, especially when a drop reaches the threshold. I don't see why we shouldn't be calling our coaster with a 301 ft drop a giga. Granted, I also thought that this method was the norm, but who knows.

It's gonna be 4 seats across per row with 8 rows per train, just like Fury 325.

I did that went the first blueprints of the foundations were found. The track in the lot for Project MCT matched perfectly with the footer labels, and still match perfectly today. Project MCT is our coaster.

122 normal pieces (including turn between brake run and transfer) + 1 transfer + 9 brakes/station + 16 lift/drop pieces = 148. You are right. Certainly not a bad way to guesstimate a track length. Thanks. Where'd you find Fury's 192?

You nailed it. This is not gonna be DB2.0. And thanks for making and sharing those pictures, because it just saved me some work. I wanted to share my thoughts on some of the elements on this coaster. I think before with the blurry overview, there was a misconception on what elements would be, and unfortunately, those seem to have stuck with the public. So, I want to give my opinion after seeing these detailed prints. Picture 1: This is not a reverse treble clef. The top point is not on a straight section like it is on Fury, and there's no large gap between banking and turning. I think this turnaround is going to be a non-inverting cross of an overbank and a dive loop. If you can imagine what a normal dive loop would look like from an above view like this, the high point would be very similar to what we see on our blueprint. An element like this would also explain why, from a top view, the turn would appear to get sharper as it decreases in altitude (assumption based on moving away from an early high point). It's not taking a sharp turn, but a steep downward turn. Picture 2: Now this looks really similar to the banked floating hill of Fury's treble cleft. While lacking the full turnaround that helped give Fury's element its name, this will still give us that amazing sideways airtime it's known for. Picture 3: I don't think this will be the ampersand we see on Shambhala. It actually looks really similar to the helix on Apollo's Chariot. We have the entrance low point (745 ft) at the very start of the turn, and it seems that the curve is getting consistently tighter until we hit the top point (854 ft) nearly 360 degrees later. We then quickly drop while turning 135 degrees where we hit the bottom (747.5 ft) after leveling and straightening out. Now at 110 feet from low to high, I can see a little bit of ampersand influence, but if this were to be more like Shambhala's, I'd have expected to see the high point be closer to the middle of the helix. I expect something closer to Apollo's helix. Of course, I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this as well. That's the point of discussion afterall.

Top of lift is 1035.9, not 1065.9.

It's expensive clearing wooded land, and it's more expensive doing so on rugged terrain. Based on the earlier discussions when we just had the clearing, it seems that KI picked the best topography to work with for this coaster, and has no qualms about leaving the rest undeveloped.

You're looking at "Bottom #6", which is after the ampersand/helix. Bottom #1 is the bottom of the main drop.

With the amount of brown track pieces visible, I would guess that Candemonium is at or near completed production. Although until Hershey track starts shipping, I think it'll be difficult to track progress on MCT. @Logan: Yes, the only MCT track we've seen so far are for the brakes, a flat turn, transfer, and station. The track labeled MCT ST9 is the entirety of our station, going into the lift.

This. 100%. And remember that this was pulled straight from the Mason Municipal Building, so we know it's legit.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h6qKpT4jW4JwgNh9uXq4dD39iLwbyAmJ/view Provided by @Bansheeback, who got copies of the available plans at Mason Municipal Building and scanned them in for us.

The 4 across cars handle transitions and curves better because of the shorter length of each car. And I would guess the shorter train length benefits the design as well.

Fixed it for ya. Red cross through the wrong ones, and the orange ones were missed.

B&M isn't doing anything different. The distance may be wider between them, but it's not different.

ST1 and ST2 should be the initial flat elevated brake run, seen on both Fury and Leviathan. ST3 curves down into a downward slope, as also seen. Now there are no footer labels for ST3 as there are no supports for ST3, likely unnecessary because it's a shorter track piece. ST2 has a set of supports and ST4 has 2 sets, so it'll be well supported. There's no error there.

To me, it looks like the Firehawk queue isn't being used at all. I see the big red section between the brake run and the station as a new large queue for the coaster. It looks like a gift shop will be in the old Firehawk queue area.

Thanks again Liz! One thing I'd like to point out is that on Fury and Leviathan, the supports equivalent to L8R and L8L are positioned still well on the lift portion and a good bit before the crest. What if we used the center point of a line between L13L and L13R as an estimate for the crest?

Here is the photo he used.

Except he used information on the coordinate sheet to prove that the actual scale of the drawing is off from the provided scale by a factor of exactly 2. His logic and process is sound.

Nobody has it. The original poster quickly deleted it, Ben23065 at least saw it, and codyfryguy had it saved but deleted before PMing anyone. Unless a mod reverts the original post to reveal it (snowball's chance in hell), it's gone.

Disappointed, but understood and respected.

Thread is moving quickly, so I'll quote myself.

Still giga. Nothing accurate to say it's not.

The last 3 sets of footers and the dotted lines for the supports are the drop, and are an identical set up to Fury and similar to Leviathan (Dragon Fire likely influenced it's design).