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By the looks of it, I’d guess it’s a surprise, ground up RMC Son of Beast revival.

Guessing that probably means the castle is coming down. Fingers crossed we get something similar to the old Phantom Theater entrance.

Outside of BBoBH today. Nothing crazy, but still cool to see. Crazy this is even happening.

I’ll try to get a video next time I go, but I’m 100% sure it was the actual Phantom Theater tracks. It had the distinct like “circus organ or whatever” from the prop room that isn’t present in either of those soundtracks. I know ever since the encore show the park’s been referencing PT more, but with all the hints this haunt I wonder if the ride could be returning in some way soon…

I would love that so much, also correct me if I'm wrong but wasnt there creepy sound effects outside the original PT building too?

Hmmm... any predictions?

My idea is a multi level station structure like Time Traveler where the queue is one and/or 2 levels below the station platform. Also if they go with a high capacity 3 train operation coaster, that could make it where they don't really need a long queue outside of busy weekends. Even on medium busy days, rides like Banshee and Orion are rarely longer than a few switchbacks. I also would like to see an under the station queue as A) it provides shade and B: there's theming opportunity I really wish more parks in the chain used the under the station area for queuing as usually when they don't it's dead space under there.

That's awesome! I think at night that would be a very good experience to hear the music of The Phantom Theater! Also is anybody else hoping the new Phantom Theater Opening Nightmare will be dark as it was in the original? I'm hopping its not lit up all the way through like Boo Blasters/SD&THC.

Paging @Dane. I am pretty sure he has to take care of this aspect of the site.

Interesting thing that’s new to me of today: They’re playing the Phantom Theater music on WindSeeker. Probably doesn’t mean anything but it’s very interesting and almost gave me a heart attack

Looks like AI nonsense quickly thrown together in hopes of getting investors. Would love to be wrong, but nothing about that website screams specifics or invites confidence.

This project seems interesting, if not for anything than more than their use of both (seemingly) real architectural renders and AI generated renders. It also looks like it could use some designs better suited to a desert like those in the Middle East, but then again AI doesn't necessarily understand that Las Vegas is a desert city.

No but you get a discount if you use your season pass.

But is it on the meal plan?

I don't know how "legal" it is but there is word that the Dippin' Dots guy has some inside info...

I suspect the current phase of the renovation is dedicated to changing the sets over. Then it will be the animatronics, then it will be the props. If the castle facade is changed, I think that will happen during the off-season. I'd love to see some (legally obtained) photos from inside the building during this phase!

I’ve been thinking about some of the old props that we still see from time to time. Garbonzo’s canon, the sarcophagus, and the organ were used in the stage show. The furnace is used in Slsughterhouse. I wonder if any will return?

I wonder if they have already started putting in the new props for the new ride, I do have a feeling that most if not all the Boo Blaster props have been removed. I do wonder what kind of easter eggs are in store for us for the new ride, if they are going to make references to the original Phantom Theater or the other rides that once occupied the building.

That’s pretty cool. Do you have any photos from the inside from the time?

I was working in tech services in 2002 when phantom theater closed, we (tech services, ride mechanics and electricians) cleared out most of phantom ourselves. We took out all the animatronics, props, scenes, sound equipment etc. we initially moved all the animatronics to the “schoolhouse” which was located at the employee entrance on western row rd. Picture attached of the old school house and they stayed in that building until they started using them as props for haunt. after we cleared everything is when sally came in to install SDATHM, we worked along side of them installing all the controls, audio equipment etc but they did most of the installation.

They’re working on clearing out the props from the building and work is being completed in Florida I assume for Phantom, don’t worry. I think there’s just going to be a week where guests return on a random Friday during haunt and the outside entrance of Boo Blasters is just completely gone. It also is an indoor ride that’s technically a retheme vs brand new ride, so it could be a thing were everything’s taken out of boo blasters over a week (which I’m 80% sure has happened by now), Phantom props are brought in a Winterfest or off season week, and the ride can still be ready for like April. Personal speculation, but I think on October 31 (or maybe October 13 because spooky number and it’s not on a weekend day) we’ll see some major teasers hopefully showing off the designs for the characters we haven’t seen yet properly because I need proper references to draw them!

Sally is the manufacturer responsible for both Boo Blasters and Phantom Theater Opening Nightmare, so it would be them making modifications to the existing Boo Blasters ride, rather than it being entirely torn out. Although if this was a situation of a ride being torn out, it would've been handled by O'Rourke Wrecking Company, which were contracted for previous demolition works like Vortex and Firehawk.

I know right! To be honest they could just be ripping out boo Blaster at the moment, no clue if there's any more progress on phantom or not

The lack of updates is making me anxious, i hate waiting!

Please no. The purpose of a themed attraction is to get people to feel as if they've stepped out of the regular world, not to thrust them back into it.

Some related stuff to Phantom Theater, what if almost every major rides here at Kings Island has a video game rating for each story and experience. Phantom Theater/Adventure Express/Orion/Bat: Banshee/Mystic Timbers/The Bat/Diamondback/The Beast/Delirium/Flight of Fear Too many to contained into one list. Vortex

Very technically yes, generally no. Elitch Gardens in Denver, CO (To Not See Elitch Is To Not See Denver!) had a standard Ghost Blasters attraction up until about 2018 when they removed it and replaced it with Meow Wolf Kaleidoscope. Meow Wolf is the same company that has/had the Omega Mart installation at Area 15 in Las Vegas. I think Kings Island will be the first park to remove an attraction named "Boo Blasters" on Boo Hill, which is why it is a very technical yes. I'm also super curious about this. I think there is some kind of licensing agreement that parks use for the standard SDR attractions, but I don't know exactly how that works. That's partially why the Six Flags parks used the Scooby Doo IP and why the former Paramount Parks may have had the option to continue using Scooby-Doo and the Haunted Castle/Mansion after 2009 instead of changing over to BBoBH. Personally, I think Six Flags should find out how much it would cost to ship everything up to Cedar Point and give them a new BBoBH dark ride. It looks like everything is still up at the now-shuttered attraction, by the way. As expected the garage door is closed, all signage is still present, a collapsible fence has been placed in front of the exit, and the giant promotional sign has been moved to block the queue entrance.

This is awesome! The props I circled are the ones I noticed, I am curious if this was the first Boo Blasters to be removed from any park.

Interior demolition of Boo Blasters has begun, in strangely public fashion (Note these were taken in public guest view areas, if this breaks rules let me know) I know they probably wouldn’t tell us, but I’m curious if Sally Dark Rides take all the props from Boo Blasters and reuses them to create another ghost blasters attraction somewhere, considering I think they’re still making boo blasters as of like 2022 I think??

Maybe I missed it in one of the threads, but did anyone ever figure out what the teaser (at the end of the teaser) was about? The scene with the guy walking through The Crypt.

If, by Opening Day, you mean opening day of the park in Spring... I'm going with zero (0). Seems the recent axiom of new attraction opening dates is to be weeks (sometimes months) after the park opens.

Any predictions how busy the ride is going to be opening day?

Probably Winterfest decorations. In the past, there have been photos of the decorations on the stage.

If anything they're either painted with decals or have full-on vinyl wraps like can be used for cars and trucks. Personally, I think they're painted with decals, though I could see using a vinyl wrap if it conforms better to the fiberglass body of each ride vehicle. Does anyone want to take a guess at what could be on the left side of the stage in those boxes? The photo quality makes it look like an open-top cardboard box covered in plastic.

I think they’re decals that can be peeled off. Not sure, though.

I wonder if they scrape the paint off and then paint over it or they just paint over it?