A while ago a made a very bland poll asking members which park has the best B&M collection. I'm updating it and basically including parks that have three or more. Don't worry, I was planning on doing one for Intamin as well as other large manufacturers also.

I feel like I can't vote since I have only been to 3 of the parks on that list. Cedar Point, Carowinds and Kings Island. Of those 3 Carowinds wins out even with the god awful Vortex. Diamondback is better than Intimidator. Fury is better than Orion and is the best B&M I have been on. Banshee beats out Afterburn but Afterburn is one hell of a ride and still smooth. Raptor is getting a bit rough and the end of that ride can be real nasty. I have had good rides on Rougarou, and some real headbangers too. I'm not the biggest Valravn fan and I think it would barely make my top 10 at Cedar Point let alone a B&M or overall list.  GateKeeper is probably the best B&M at Cedar Point and the only wing I have rode that is better is Thunderbird. Ironically Holiday World's lineup is so strong that Thunderbird at that park is my number 4 in the park. So that leaves King's Island and Carowinds almost tied for best B&M park out of the 3 and Cedar Point a distant third. I give Carowinds the edge because of Fury and they have 4 versus King's Island 3.

I love this topic. I picked Carowinds, but there are so many good choices. Kings Island is very close for me. I also think the best SF park lineup is Over Georgia. 

Sea world orlando without a doubt.  Kraken is one of the few b&m's with otsr's that has no headbanging.  Mako is the their best hyper and better overall than fury.  Manta is the second best flyer in the states.

I voted Busch Gardens Tampa but it still shows 0%?

4 minutes ago, grsupercity said:

I voted Busch Gardens Tampa but it still shows 0%?

They have the best collection of the far superior old school b&m's.  I chose seas due to Mako and the variety of the other two models.

I voted Carowinds.  Fury is my favorite coaster of the 250 I have been on.  Afterburn is my favorite of the inverts other than Banshee.  I do like Great Adventure's variety but I would say that Nitro and Bizarro are head and shoulders above the rest of the B&Ms there.

Shambhala, Leviathan, Mako, Fury, Flying Dinosaur, Fenix, Thunderbird, Valkyria, Banshee, Candymonium, Orion all built in the last 10 years. Monster, a return to the classic restraint invert, also looks outstanding. Modern B&M gets a hilarious bad rap by some enthusiasts. 

25 minutes ago, JimParker85 said:

Shambhala, Leviathan, Mako, Fury, Flying Dinosaur, Fenix, Thunderbird, Valkyria, Banshee, Candymonium, Orion all built in the last 10 years. Monster, a return to the classic restraint invert, also looks outstanding. Modern B&M gets a hilarious bad rap by some enthusiasts. 

Rightfully so.

I voted for Carowinds, but I haven't had a chance to ride Orion yet, and that will factor heavily into my decision...

On 5/7/2021 at 12:57 PM, coaster sally said:

Rightfully so.

...Did you want to follow that up with actual reasoning, or...?

I'm just not sure how you expect people to engage with what you have to say here.

@coaster sally you don't speak for all GP or enthusiasts, so quit pretending you're an authority of how people think of B&Ms and Intamins.

You may have your own opinion, but don't project it as some unanimous opinion.

 

 

On 5/7/2021 at 12:32 PM, JimParker85 said:

Modern B&M gets a hilarious bad rap by some enthusiasts. 

I just stated IMO that it rightfully so warrants the bad rap.  Not speaking for anyone else.

Why do you think that B&M rightfully warrants the bad rap?  I think B&M are fun rides, that are very repeatable.  Parks love them because they have good capacity and normally good uptime.

1 hour ago, coaster sally said:

Modern B&M gets a hilarious bad rap by some enthusiasts. 

 

7 minutes ago, CoastersRZ said:

Why do you think that B&M rightfully warrants the bad rap?  I think B&M are fun rides, that are very repeatable.  Parks love them because they have good capacity and normally good uptime.

Not referring to parks.  Referring to enthusiasts.

B&M is the safe reliable option. They will last as long as Arrows or longer. But B&M is the vanilla ice cream of the coaster world. Like Toyota is in cars. Chocolate is better and so is Honda. I love most B&M's but they do not take risks. They will never build a Steel Vengeance or Maverick or Top Thrill or Voyage. Fury is in my opinion their best coaster and for darn near 25 years Raptor was my favorite ride at Cedar Point.

Not everything needs to be chocolate.  I find both Orion and Banshee to be intense.  Not in the out of your seat causing bruises on your thighs as your body slams into the restraint like with Voyage, Steel Vengeance and even Maverick.  As I have gotten older, I have learned to appreciate the smoother yet intense rides.  Don`t get me wrong, I love the above mentioned rides, just I think they are almost too intense.  I have nearly grayed out on both Banshee and Orion before.  

Coasters are subjective.  People rave about Maverick, for me it's just OK.  Many hate Magnum XL-200, but I love it.  The problem with enthusiasts comes into play when people state their opinion about a ride as a fact.  

Coasters have facts:  TTD is 420' tall, launches you from 0-120 in 4 seconds and often is down are facts.  Just like Orion is 287' tall, goes 91 mph and has demonstrated reliability.  Stats are stats, but someone may favor TTD to Orion and another may like Apple Zapple better than both of them.  

To me, coasters are a form of art that, as previously stated, is subjective, like music, movies, paintings and sculptures.  It's an art form that involves the sense of touch and our nervous systems are all wired differently.  Enthusiasts need to heed that when learning of others' perspective when giving opinions and need to know the difference between opinions and facts.  It's a lovely community when that comes together.  Unfortunately, the more obnoxious ones such as the Intamin fanboys ruin conversations.  As I've said on another thread, I've yet to meet a huge fan of Intamin who wasn't obnoxious and they always use the same talking points.  It's a weird cycle.

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