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Tony Clark: "major announcement on 9/2 at high noon"

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This announcement was just for Cedar Point. I don't think we have any idea when Kings Island is announcing anything for 2015, if they are at all.

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Nobody's favorite type of a coaster is a stand up.

With the disclaimer that Mantis is the only one I've ridden, stand-ups are indeed one of my favorites.

Noon has come and gone, no word from KI yet?

It's a CP announcement, not KI.

I rode Mantis yesterday since it has been rumored to change soon. I am not a huge fan of stand ups (I loved Chang at Kentucky Kingdom for some reason.) I love the layout of Mantis though. I cannot imagine how they can do a floorless without having to change some of the elements. If the conversion is successful, maybe they will do the same to Shockwave at Kings Dominion.

I don't think that's likely. This is converting a B&M to a different type of B&M - which (at least in my opinion) is what makes this make sense.

Shockwave is a decades-old TOGO - which are slowly disappearing, as the company's American operations went out of business long ago.

I mean, with enough money (nearly) everything is possible, but I think it would be more likely to see other B&Ms converted.

It's quite possible that they use the same-gauge track as well as other similar components.

EDIT: yep ^

They did convert Steel Dragon 2000 (a Morgan coaster) to have B&M trains, so they can work with different gauges of track.

However, I don't think any amount of B&M's expertise can make Shockwave any better. Also, I direct you to the coaster formerly known as Manhattan Express for the result of other companies trying to mess with Togos.

Manhattan Express...... Oh the horror....

EDIT: I can see it now...... Wicked Mantis. The first hybrid coaster to feature an inclined dive loop and a 270 degree stall element. At 200ft tall with a 195ft drop, it will be the worlds tallest hybrid coaster (or wooden coaster, we dont know). It will also be the first and only hybrid coaster to feature FOUR, count them, FOUR inversions! Wicked Mantis everyone!

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So that made the previous announcement of today's announcement an announcement of an announcement of an announcement.

Terp, who liked looking in facing beauty shop round mirrors as a child (and still does!)

So that made the previous announcement of today's announcement an announcement of an announcement of an announcement.

My head hurts.

Mantis might be getting the reverse RMC treatment. Remove the steel track and install wooden track... Im sure this will show up on Screamscape shortly.

I wonder if we will see these potential new trains and concept art at IAAPA in November?

I also wonder if there will be some reprofiling done? I wonder if something like the Demonic Knot that showed up on Flug der Damonen this year could show up. Seeing as this element is formed with an Inclined Dive Loop going directly into an inclined Immelmann. Mantis has an inclined loop currently that could easily become the inclined Immelmann followed by the inclined Dive Loop. Just some wild speculation since that is what they are hoping for.

Interpreter has gone on an endless loop

Yep.

And I'm gonna do it again next year, perhaps at SIX parks and fairs.

And yes, that's a coaster, Surf Dog!

I threw this chart together to show the number of operating stand-up roller coasters in North America and the world in general, year by year.

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Pardon a couple ones being relocated by Six Flags a few years back, there has not been a new stand-up roller coaster built anywhere since 1999. They were definitely a fad of the 1980s and 90s, and if the floorless conversion rumors are true, it'll be a refreshing and welcomed change.

Edit: was beat by a few seconds. So I shall ask an intriguing question instead.

Can a Banshee wail for itself?

Maybe, just maybe, our Banshee wailed for the "original" Banshee to die?

I'm not sure how to feel about this. Mantis, it sounds like a cool coaster, from what I've heard. But at the same time, I've heard that it can be rough.

Oh well, one must fall for another to rise.

Re-occuring theme?

Anyone think this could be a re-theme to the "LeBron coaster" idea CP said they would do?

From what I saw Cedar Point was test new paint on Mantis last month. So look for a new name and trains. Shockwave could run both sit down and standing up trains. Their is a coaster in Japan that is a clone of the King Cobra that does it.

Ugh. This is upsetting news for me. At least I got to ride it several times this year.

Don't worry you might want to sit down and take a ride.

I won't STAND for this!!

I imagine that if Mantis is getting the floorless conversion, I'm sure B&M has figured out that it will work.

Mantis might be getting the reverse RMC treatment. Remove the steel track and install wooden track... Im sure this will show up on Screamscape shortly.

I wonder if we will see these potential new trains and concept art at IAAPA in November?

I also wonder if there will be some reprofiling done? I wonder if something like the Demonic Knot that showed up on Flug der Damonen this year could show up. Seeing as this element is formed with an Inclined Dive Loop going directly into an inclined Immelmann. Mantis has an inclined loop currently that could easily become the inclined Immelmann followed by the inclined Dive Loop. Just some wild speculation since that is what they are hoping for.

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Several hours ago Dorney Park tweeted using #DPstandsUPwithCP. Could they be relocating Mantis to Dorney?

I... don't know what to say...besides...

Hurray?

As long as something substantial restores the void it will leave (IF it will leave)...

Oh boy my first ever CP trip will be in May with my 8th grade class! The biggest thing that I'm hoping to be open for 2015 will be that RMC (If it's not just a teaser). I imagine that list of things to do will take at least 2 and a half years to complete, especially against Lake Erie weather. After our trip this year I don't have any clue if or when I'll ever be back to CP again and I am a huge RMC fan (though I have never ridden one) and would love to ride one. And having one only 3 hours away would be awesome! That's definitely the one I'm rooting for the highest.

Several hours ago Dorney Park tweeted using #DPstandsUPwithCP. Could they be relocating Mantis to Dorney?

I doubt it. The GM of Cedar Point is the former GM of Dorney. Think it's more of a hey, buddy we're excited for your new project!

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