Just Wondering,

I know it was said many times that while Cedar Point open Millennium Force they had Top Thrill Dragster in the works and when that open they had Maverick in planning. Now both Diamondback and it's sister ride Behemoth show up right after Cedar Fair took over. These are custom rides which I would think would take years of planning, that would mean Paramount would have been part of the planning stage. Any thoughts? I'm sure the offical word would be only Cedar Fair played a role in these rides, but I remember Son of Beast having a loop, which Cedar Fair now act's if it never happen and that new "flying" coaster I kinda remember being green and called X-flight!

This past August CWMania.com had an event at Canada's Wonderland, and during their Q&A session it was said that if Paramount still owned the park, Behemoth would not be there.

Same with Diamondback. It wouldn't have happened without Cedar Fair. Paramount was not interested in making that type of investment in the parks.

^Remember, FoF was on its way out of the park too.

If CF can pull off moving Firehawk in one year I think a new coaster in 3 years is pretty easy, especially since your example MF and TTD also opened 3 years apart.

Diamondback will open approximately 3 years after Cedar Fair's acquisition of KI. Millenium Force, Top Thrill Dragster and Maverick all opened 3 years apart and, if I am not mistaken, planning on Beast started in 1976, about three years before its opening. It would, therefore, appear to me feasible that Diamondback was never planned in the Paramount years.

I think at KIC day we were told that it's been around a year since the project started.

...which would be consistent with B & M having planned and prepared a proposal for Paramount some years back...a proposal that Paramount obviously did not undertake, perhaps because, as is now obvious, the company had pared back investments in preparation for a sale of the entity. There is no way that B & M and Cedar Fair designed, got the necessary permits and approvals for and began construction of a major roller coaster in this day and age in about a year, unless the plans (and possibly the permits) were already on the shelf. Shaggy has in the past proposed the "on the shelf" theory, and I whole-heartedly agree. Ride vendors are always making proposals, some of which parks accept, some of which they do not.

^^So using that logic Behemoth was also "on the shelf" for CW??