^ Don't forget locker rentals for storing the drink bottles.

I didn't even use my free cup from CoasterStock. That is how much I hate lugging those cups around. Just add it to the pass like the meal plan and be done with it.

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Drink wristbands are the best idea. I like having the cups but since you are not allowed to have the cup for certain rides I don't even bring it in to the park. The park is missing out on a major money maker because I would rather spend $7-$10 on a drink wristband every time I visit than bring in that cup and have to pay for refills AND buy a locker every time I want to ride KI's signature ride.

I can promise you with utmost certainty, that the powers that be at CF parks have little to no concern on what we would "rather" do, unless the "rather" is also the one that makes them the most money.  In this case, it isnt.

I can promise you with utmost certainty, that the powers that be at CF parks have little to no concern on what we would "rather" do, unless the "rather" is also the one that makes them the most money.  In this case, it isnt.

I completely agree with you! And that's the difference between KI or CF and some of the smaller parks. Big parks are ALWAYS about the bottom line ( I do understand that profits are what businesses are created for). Smaller parks are usually about the patron's experience. That's why people usually only talk about rides at CF and SIX but you hear more about the experiences and memories made at HW (turning off the preshow on TB for an autistic kid bothered by the sounds so he could ride), Dollywood (shows are world class and theming during the holidays are amazing!), Silver Dollar City (Theming and family atmosphere), and the parks like them.

Dollywood and Silver Dollar City are NOT small parks.  They are operated by Herschend Family Entertainment (which has several former Paramount Parks executives working for them, including Craig Ross and Jane Cooper).

 

One difference between Cedar Fair and HFE is that Cedar Fair is a publicly traded partnership.  They have unit holders to answer to who expect the cash distribution.  HFE is a privately held company.  So they have a little bit more leeway and are not as concerned with making a profit to satisfy the share holders/ unit holders.

Actually, Dollywood is operated by The Dollywood Company, in which Herschend has an interest.

Had Cedar Fair Entertainment Company been privately owned and not have to please investors, think about how different the parks might be. If they didn't have to show an increase in spending per capita every quarter, then maybe food wouldn't be as expensive.

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Yep. Kinzel could have sold out to Apollo Global WITHOUT a unitholder vote. You'd likely NOT have Diamondback or Banshee...

Investor pressure can be a GOOD thing.

Creditors can have strong says regardless of corporate governance. See Conneaut Lake Park...

If I played the lottery, and if the Powerball was at  the level then as is was this week, and if I won, and if it were not for that pesky debt, I may have thought about buying the company back then.

Plus they would never have had the debt capacity to purchase the Paramount chain anyway.

Yep. Kinzel could have sold out to Apollo Global WITHOUT a unitholder vote. You'd likely NOT have Diamondback or Banshee...

Investor pressure can be a GOOD thing.

Creditors can have strong says regardless of corporate governance. See Conneaut Lake Park...

Oh...how this is going to be so clearly demonstrated in the coming days.