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I tend to ride whichever side has the shortest visible line, if open. Just because there's a big tower nearby doesn't mean you'll be close to the riders or get anything out of it. Either side is about as far away as each other when it's operating, anyways.

I said Beast and Macaroni, but Diamondback and SoB were close seconds.

I chose the following: Adventure Express - I like it Beast - Everyone likes it WindSeeker - Everyone will like it Flight of Fear - Long lines

For me to call something a coaster it must meet the following requirements: -Have a linear track. (No tower, is what I mean.) -Must have no on-ride power source. -Must for more than 50% of the ride be coasting. So according to this definition I think the first two are coasters, the last two are flats, and the middle is unknown because I don't know how it works.

If I owned Cedar Fair I would start with some basics: remove the power from the head and move it into the individual parks because they know their situation better, lower food prices to only slightly more expensive than outside the park so even more people will actually buy food at the park, and drop the Peanuts licensing and either getting Scooby-Doo rights or using their own brand of theming because Peanuts, though probably cheaper than most options, are about as good as using your own themes. I would set up a more open channel between the company and the public and have everyone respond to questions posed by the public to build up a relationship between the two, for if the people think the parks don't care, the "If we build it, they will come" attitude, then they will be less likely to go. At a park level, KI specifically, I would start by switching out the music they play. International Street would get calm music that people may know, but also may not. If I could find one, I'd even have music composed specifically for the parks to use. Coney Mall will receive classic park music that is reminiscent of Coney Island NY. Rivertown will get some of what I call mid-classic country music; that would be newer music by artists that people know that follow traditional more than pop occurs. music. The children's area will either get kid's music that more than just kids will enjoy or music you hear in the Scooby shows and movies, depending on which retheme occurs. I would retheme Oktoberfest to Louisiana Square and give it some music from New Orleans. Outer Hanks would be renamed the Bayou Grande with seafood and Cajun cuisine. I would remove Adventure Express (nothing against it) and put in another mild wooden coaster and possibly name it Katrina. Viking Fury would be renamed to something of which I do not know or removed and replaced with a Spinning Barrels. The Festhaus would be removed and replaced with some flat rides. Slingshot would be removed. Action Zone would get its repaint to bring back its vibrant colors. Thunder Alley would be removed and B.L.S.C. would be moved to the area. Flight Deck would be renamed Afterburn and painted navy blue with plain white supports (if chrome paint could be used, maybe that instead) and would receive fighter jet theming. Queue line TVs would be added with a briefing video to excite the guests before riding. I'd contact S&S and attempt to get them to extend it so it is longer, maybe faster, and provides a more worth-while experience. Son of Beast would get torn down for the time being and the area would be unused for a few years. If money comes back I'd contact Intamin and have them build a better Son of Beast like coaster, with the as many of the original criteria met as possible, including the loop. If the money isn't raised or interest in it is lost, then a B&M inverted coaster would be added. If possible a new flying area would be opened and Flight of Fear / Firehawk may be moved. Flat rides will be added where possible. The Timberwolf Amphitheater would be renamed and it would have a summer concert series with local artists and maybe more big name stars if they can be coaxed into coming. Coney Mall will remain largely as is, though sans Dinosaurs Alive. Attitudes will have moved to Action Zone and be replaced by a more appropriate store. Subway will be removed and replaced with Sweet Tooth. The Racer will be repainted with its original color scheme and the other flats will receive a fresh coat of paint to brighten them up. WindSeeker would be dressed up to look like the original Parachute Drop on Coney Island. Where B.L.S.C. was the Antique Cars and Flying Eagles will return. The dead end that was the entrance to X-Base will be replaced with another shop. Action Theater will open up with both theaters, Urgent Scare props being removed. The left will house Smash Factory and the right will have a specially made movie called "Phantom Theater: Maestro's Revenge" or something of the sort that will bring back the original Phantom Theater cast but to the big screen and show what they do when they are disturbed. In Rivertown the Crypt would be rethemed the Shaft and be based off of an old mining shaft. Diamondback's field will be planted with trees and would have more theming done to the station area. R.F.Y.L.C.B. will be rethemed back to the Kings Mills Log Flume, yet with better colors, and a Chaos ride will be added called Wheel of Fortune reminiscent of the original. Whitewater Canyon will be extended to feature a longer, more thrilling track and renamed Snake River Canyon. More theming will be added to the train to enhance the experience. Rivertown Junction Dining Hall will be renamed Columbia Palace Dining Hall and will become less of a buffet and more of a great eatery. Planet Snoopy will be rethemed as said above and B.B.o.B.H. will be rethemed to a shooter version of Phantom Theater. In the other half will be S.D.a.t.H.M. both darkrides will run. On International Street the International Restaurant will be tricked out again and reopen to the public. Entertainers will roam the park areas with appropriate costumes. There will be a small band playing near-continuously in Coney Mall and Rivertown. The ride-ops will have themed costumes for the ride they work at and the other park employees will have semi-themed outfits for the area they service. (e.g. Janitors in Action Zone would have checker board stripes on their clothes and be dressed in primary colors.) The fireworks would last for a more decent 10 minutes. ERT will consist of WindSeeker, Diamondback, Vortex, Beast, F.o.F., and Firehawk and will be open to Gold, Platinum, and ACE members. Also on certain nights they will run a Late Ride Time on Beast, Diamondback, Vortex, and WindSeeker from 10:00 - 11:00. Gold/Platinum Pass holders will have discounts in the shops of 10-15% and certain privileges on rides, such as preferred seating on Diamondback, double rides on Beast, and a quick-line on B.L.S.C. Halloween Haunt will be less massive, but more immersive. Special shows will be played in all theaters including Action Theater, where SpongeBob will be replaced with Elvira and Phantom Theater will be replaced with a more extreme version of itself. The fog will be toned down very much. Winterfest will return, though it will take place starting New Year's Eve running until January 31. Great Wolf Lodge will leave and be replaced by a Kings Island owned hotel. If you stay there you get similar privileges to Gold Pass holders. The company will focus more on balancing theme with thrill and less on either extreme. To fund this some of parks will close and be sold, such as C.G.A., the two excess Knott's waterparks, Geauga Lake's Wildwater Kingdom, and Canada's Wonderland. The top four priority parks will become Kings Island, Knott's Berry Farm, Carowinds, and Cedar Point. Cedar Point will move down due to its less favorable location and the fact that it itself is less in balance already than Kings Island. That is what I would do if I owned Cedar Fair. EDIT: Did I just type that much? Wow. EDIT2: Fixed up. EDIT III: I NEVER SAID THAT!!!! And also, looking back, I was an idiot. Please, forgive my idiocy.

I don't mind it, but it made me stop enjoying Peanuts. I'm glad they removed the Nick theming since either it would be outdated and lame or crappy and lame, depending on which shows they left. I personally, though, would have gotten the rights to Scooby-Doo since to me at least everyone knows Scooby-Doo, everyone loves Scooby-Doo, and he's more well known than that name stealing beagle. The great dane should live in Kings Island! Plus he's been at Kings Island for its entire life. At least you can still see him in the pass processing center.

That was the Phantom Theater chandelier?!?! If only I had known!

I agree with Raptor. A Roller Coaster uses gravity to power it most of the way. A flat ride, even a tracked flat ride, uses a motor to keep it going. That's also why Tumble Bugs are flat rides though in every other sense they may be called a coaster.

I followed in ^ footsteps and read this at 5:20. Very awesome, sir. Very awesome. Now only if all the rides at the park could have histories like this.

Same here. I personally will spend the money a few times to ride, based on when I can get the money to do so. I may not be a dino-fan, but feel that the dinos are a great thing to see. I admit that it is a strange thing to add, especially to Coney Mall, but how much stranger is it than Crypt or BLSC? (I won't mention DB.) And unless anyone here was hoping for something to go out there like an X-Base expansion in a few years what's the problem? Having Reptar out front may get Annoying, but he's it. And the cost is still lower than most things in the park. It's actually just $1.50 more than the vending machines. If you complain about the size of your family think of how many won't want to go anyways, then about how many of them either go once/twice a year or only want to go through it once or twice. $40 - $60 a year isn't that much. That's equivilant to paying 11-16 cents a day. I don't see the big deal. BTW, am I the only one that remembers a Dinosaurs Alive attraction at the Museum Center a couple years ago?

To me that Son of Beast picture is amazing and historic. And that was a fairly good guess with the dinosaur.

Am I the only one who thinks that map looks fairly distorted? Everything seems tilted, squeezed, and stretched in terms of layout. And I thought the laser maze was in Coney Mall, not Oktoberfest.

a. Didn't know. b. I meant things like Drop Zone, which make sense all by themselves, not like Top Gun. c. I didn't know to the first, already heard about to the second. d. And thanks!

I can't say much, not having been to the PKI (not KI) version since '03/'04, but from what I can tell; Cedar Fair: -Cleaner -Nicer -Upkeep Paramount -(Initial) Theming -Rides -Ideas I can boil this down to one thing each; Cedar Fair is better at managing the park, but Paramount had better style. Yes both of those are flawed, what with a Tower gardens smoking area and a Tomb Raider in Rivertown, but I still hold to my statements. Paramount has had some great ideas for rides and in some ways actually realized them, but they were put in the wrong place and weren't kept up. If they had thought through these things and put their budget more towards upkeep, then they would have had a great park. I personally wouldn't have minded having corporate theming if correctly applied. Cedar Fair has had better management. They are redoing at least 3 different areas at the park and are trying to bring KI to the olden time with more charm and more entertainment, but they just can't run a theme park. Diamondback is just as wrongfully placed as Bubba Gumps Shrimp Shack was, w/o all the corporate theming. Let's say that Paramount added Diamondback just as it is, maybe with a different name. Would we as easily have taken to it? They drained the beautiful Swan Lake, removed other buildings that could have been reused, and but a metal monster in the scenic Rivertown. I feel that Tomb Raider fit more than Diamondback did. (If I have begun ranting against Cedar Fair, I apologize in advance. I have a personal grudge against the Fair) They replaced a more easily recognized kid's theme with one that you only ever hear about. I would rather they made it all their own or used something like Scooby Doo, granted it's at about the same state and I just personally hate the Peanuts decision. Action Zone is deteriorating fhaster than any other area I can think of and they repainted Top Gun but didn't give it a better color. They renamed rides unnecessarily and in some places gave them bad rethemes, such as not changing Tomb Rider to something like the Shaft. To me Paramount Parks would have done better to split off from Paramount and merged with Cedar Fair. You would have had the style and the management, then they just would have had to learn about placement and they would have been golden. To my knowledge the only parks they would need to keep should be Knotts, Cedar Point, Kings Island, Carowinds, CW, and maybe KD, though I really don't care for it, thinking it to be a wannabe KI. Then they'd have a wide audience, more focused attention, and possibly more money they sold the excess off. They would have...eh...could someone help? I'm having trouble finishing this off. And if there are any flaws let me please know.